Comments on: More about my RentACoder experiment http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/ Eli Bendersky's personal website Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:54:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Mark Abucayon http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-89814 Mark Abucayon Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:48:27 +0000 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-89814 Some Freelance websites are good in times of quality and functionalities some are not... but we all know freelancers get on that site to find work in order to have money in their pocket...but this freelance sites give more opportunity to the the freelancer and give them lots of contacts...and you have them in your own contacts,.- Another is you can collect more portfolios. Some Freelance websites are good in times of quality and functionalities some are not… but we all know freelancers get on that site to find work in order to have money in their pocket…but this freelance sites give more opportunity to the the freelancer and give them lots of contacts…and you have them in your own contacts,.- Another is you can collect more portfolios.

]]> By: Sergey I.Grachyov http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-64776 Sergey I.Grachyov Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:46:21 +0000 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-64776 1. I can see many-many very small projects: Here I can see $120 project: http://www.odesk.com/console/g/view_profile.php?key=fbe874ab2975db65 Here I can see $251 project: http://www.odesk.com/console/g/view_profile.php?key=764e073c8a47a091 Here I can see $138 project: http://www.odesk.com/console/g/view_profile.php?key=02d6495a11690559 All these projects are "August, 2007" projects. Where I can see three $6K+ "August 2007" projects. So, arithmetic mean will be $3K ? 2. On the 1st page of your site I can see "oConomy Facts" section. Let's see: Earned in the last 90 days $2,999,360 You declare "2000 projects" monthly. So, average projects size in the last 90 days (aka 3 months): $2,999,360 / (2000 * 3) = $500 3. I can't check your numbers: $3000, 2000, $2,999,360, 225 hours, etc But when I put these numbers together - I can see unrealistic result. 1.
I can see many-many very small projects:
Here I can see $120 project:
http://www.odesk.com/console/g/view_profile.php?key=fbe874ab2975db65

Here I can see $251 project:
http://www.odesk.com/console/g/view_profile.php?key=764e073c8a47a091

Here I can see $138 project:
http://www.odesk.com/console/g/view_profile.php?key=02d6495a11690559

All these projects are “August, 2007″ projects. Where I can see three $6K+ “August 2007″ projects. So, arithmetic mean will be $3K ?

2. On the 1st page of your site I can see “oConomy Facts” section. Let’s see:
Earned in the last 90 days $2,999,360
You declare “2000 projects” monthly.
So, average projects size in the last 90 days (aka 3 months): $2,999,360 / (2000 * 3) = $500

3. I can’t check your numbers: $3000, 2000, $2,999,360, 225 hours, etc
But when I put these numbers together - I can see unrealistic result.

]]> By: Sameer Jain http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-64336 Sameer Jain Tue, 14 Aug 2007 05:05:27 +0000 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-64336 Sergey, this is Sameer Jain responding; I’m working at oDesk as a Marketing Analyst this summer. Sorry for not replying sooner–we hadn’t seen your follow-up comment until today. To clarify the calculation, the $3k average project size is based on estimated length of projects posted on oDesk. These figures are provided by oDesk buyers at time of posting and the average project is listed as being more than 225 hours in length. At our average hourly comp rates, that’s well above $3k / project. Best, Sameer sameerj@odesk.com Sergey, this is Sameer Jain responding; I’m working at oDesk as a Marketing Analyst this summer.

Sorry for not replying sooner–we hadn’t seen your follow-up comment until today. To clarify the calculation, the $3k average project size is based on estimated length of projects posted on oDesk. These figures are provided by oDesk buyers at time of posting and the average project is listed as being more than 225 hours in length. At our average hourly comp rates, that’s well above $3k / project.

Best,

Sameer
sameerj@odesk.com

]]> By: ripper234 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60692 ripper234 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:30:19 +0000 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60692 It's not a bad website. I used to work there for small 50-100$ jobs. It gave me an amusing weekend exercise and help raise some money while slaving at the army. Now I'm back there as a software buyer, and I tell that I couldn't have done without this website (or similar ones). The workers profit from it, otherwise they wouldn't have been there. It gives them another alternative that they might not be able to get in their home town, and it gives small business another way to get projects done. Of course, the students who use it for their homework miss the point of studying completely. Their loss. It’s not a bad website. I used to work there for small 50-100$ jobs. It gave me an amusing weekend exercise and help raise some money while slaving at the army.

Now I’m back there as a software buyer, and I tell that I couldn’t have done without this website (or similar ones). The workers profit from it, otherwise they wouldn’t have been there. It gives them another alternative that they might not be able to get in their home town, and it gives small business another way to get projects done.

Of course, the students who use it for their homework miss the point of studying completely. Their loss.

]]> By: Sergey I.Grachyov http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60474 Sergey I.Grachyov Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:29:58 +0000 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60474 Michelle, I didn't ask about oDesk advertising. What calculation you perform to get this result: "average project size is $3,000." Michelle,
I didn’t ask about oDesk advertising.
What calculation you perform to get this result: “average project size is $3,000.”

]]> By: Michelle Keller http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60465 Michelle Keller Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:06:53 +0000 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60465 Sergey -- If you browse through the oDesk job board, you'll find projects ranging from $150 for the creation of an animation logo to $12,000 (for creating a Facebook.com-like networking site). Some job posts list a time period/schedule rather than a specific budget so developers can set their own rates. oDesk allows Buyers to rate providers, so some oDesk providers become so successful they no longer have to bid on projects -- Buyers contact them directly. This allows Buyers and Providers to develop meaningful business relationships, even if they are on opposite ends of the world. If you want to see more job posts, go to http://www.odesk.com -- Michelle, oDesk.com Sergey –
If you browse through the oDesk job board, you’ll find projects ranging from $150 for the creation of an animation logo to $12,000 (for creating a Facebook.com-like networking site). Some job posts list a time period/schedule rather than a specific budget so developers can set their own rates. oDesk allows Buyers to rate providers, so some oDesk providers become so successful they no longer have to bid on projects — Buyers contact them directly. This allows Buyers and Providers to develop meaningful business relationships, even if they are on opposite ends of the world. If you want to see more job posts, go to http://www.odesk.com
– Michelle, oDesk.com

]]> By: kamen 123 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60424 kamen 123 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:25:23 +0000 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60424 there are many dummies like rac staff that try to live from dishonest exploitation of other people...rentacoder is shame for the business... there are many dummies like rac staff that try to live from dishonest exploitation of other people…rentacoder is shame for the business…

]]> By: kamen 123 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60423 kamen 123 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:16:10 +0000 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60423 Sergey: please go to bark at rentacoder here is obvious that I'm right and your behaviour is transparent :-) Sergey: please go to bark at rentacoder
here is obvious that I’m right and your behaviour is transparent
:-)

]]> By: Sergey I.Grachyov http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60413 Sergey I.Grachyov Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:23:56 +0000 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60413 Mr Michelle Keller, What calculation you perform to get this result: "average project size is $3,000." Mr Michelle Keller,
What calculation you perform to get this result: “average project size is $3,000.”

]]> By: Sergey I.Grachyov http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60412 Sergey I.Grachyov Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:18:12 +0000 http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/07/14/more-about-my-rentacoder-experiment/#comment-60412 "kamen 123" spoil perfect site in revenge. He has been banned from RentACoder because "He insulted other parties numerous times". Details of his personal failure at RentACoder: http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/ArbitrationInfo/KamenKaburov/RentACoderArbitration/KamenKaburov_RentACoder_Arbitration.htm “kamen 123″ spoil perfect site in revenge.
He has been banned from RentACoder because “He insulted other parties numerous times”.
Details of his personal failure at RentACoder:
http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/ArbitrationInfo/KamenKaburov/RentACoderArbitration/KamenKaburov_RentACoder_Arbitration.htm

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