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	<title>Comments on: Doing some work at RentACoder</title>
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		<title>By: kamen 123</title>
		<link>http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/04/21/doing-some-work-at-rentacoder/comment-page-1/#comment-53398</link>
		<dc:creator>kamen 123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 07:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very funny again Sergey Grachyov is wasting time barking to defend the dummies in rac staff
It's wiser if you go out and find good job
Please do not help rac staff to lie
Sergey your behaviour is transparent here, everyone can confirm that I'm right

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very funny again Sergey Grachyov is wasting time barking to defend the dummies in rac staff<br />
It&#8217;s wiser if you go out and find good job<br />
Please do not help rac staff to lie<br />
Sergey your behaviour is transparent here, everyone can confirm that I&#8217;m right</p>
<p> <img src='http://eli.thegreenplace.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sergey I.Grachyov</title>
		<link>http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/04/21/doing-some-work-at-rentacoder/comment-page-1/#comment-50587</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey I.Grachyov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Famous insulter “kamen123” has been banned from RentACoder. 

Story of his personal failure:
http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/ArbitrationInfo/KamenKaburov/RentACoderArbitration/KamenKaburov_RentACoder_Arbitration.htm

“kamen123” spoil perfect site in revenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Famous insulter “kamen123” has been banned from RentACoder. </p>
<p>Story of his personal failure:<br />
<a href="http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/ArbitrationInfo/KamenKaburov/RentACoderArbitration/KamenKaburov_RentACoder_Arbitration.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/ArbitrationInfo/KamenKaburov/RentACoderArbitration/KamenKaburov_RentACoder_Arbitration.htm</a></p>
<p>“kamen123” spoil perfect site in revenge.</p>
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		<title>By: kamen123</title>
		<link>http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/04/21/doing-some-work-at-rentacoder/comment-page-1/#comment-50207</link>
		<dc:creator>kamen123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you may be interested in my experience with rentacoder
I posted some comments at http://kamen123.blogspot.com

I have obvious evidences that rentacoder staff can not provide consistent arbitration if project is significantly bigger than several hundreds. Because their mental abilities do not allow them to deal properly. For such projects rentacoder becomes trap full with endless stupidity. This is in contradiction with the slogan of rentacoder and the text on the site.  

I believe that everyone benefits from a fair marketplace
It is fair to warn buyers and coders about rentacoder 

Probably now  Sergey Grachyov will start barking against me to defend rentacoder, I'll tell him in advance that every wise man will confirm that I'm right. Only people like him may like rentapatcher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you may be interested in my experience with rentacoder<br />
I posted some comments at <a href="http://kamen123.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://kamen123.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>I have obvious evidences that rentacoder staff can not provide consistent arbitration if project is significantly bigger than several hundreds. Because their mental abilities do not allow them to deal properly. For such projects rentacoder becomes trap full with endless stupidity. This is in contradiction with the slogan of rentacoder and the text on the site.  </p>
<p>I believe that everyone benefits from a fair marketplace<br />
It is fair to warn buyers and coders about rentacoder </p>
<p>Probably now  Sergey Grachyov will start barking against me to defend rentacoder, I&#8217;ll tell him in advance that every wise man will confirm that I&#8217;m right. Only people like him may like rentapatcher</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey I.Grachyov</title>
		<link>http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/04/21/doing-some-work-at-rentacoder/comment-page-1/#comment-50098</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey I.Grachyov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 00:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have 865 projects, completed via RentACoder.
Programmers from expensive areas always ready to explain why they can't compete with me.

I have 93 projects completed via GetAFreelancer and 32 projects, completed via Scriptlance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have 865 projects, completed via RentACoder.<br />
Programmers from expensive areas always ready to explain why they can&#8217;t compete with me.</p>
<p>I have 93 projects completed via GetAFreelancer and 32 projects, completed via Scriptlance.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/04/21/doing-some-work-at-rentacoder/comment-page-1/#comment-50092</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really wonder how you can think that doing qualified things dirt cheap makes you a better coder. It definitely doesn't make you a better business man, and it's business we're in, nothing else. In the worst case, you're lowering the price for good work, not only hurting yourself, but others, too.
Why not try something else for a challenge? Start or join an open source project to build a reputation? Build up a company, advertise and solve the problems of the people around you? Help a non-profit organization to organize their IT for the common good? Get into academia and do some research? 
It's not the breadth of your skills that make you a good coder, it's the depth of your expertise. There's always a way to do things better, even in a day-to-day job, and that's the way to perfection. By suggesting that the motivation for improvement is hard to find you indicate that you may have reached a dead end. Try to overcome this by aspiring for the next level; it may be more rewarding than doing other's work for next to nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really wonder how you can think that doing qualified things dirt cheap makes you a better coder. It definitely doesn&#8217;t make you a better business man, and it&#8217;s business we&#8217;re in, nothing else. In the worst case, you&#8217;re lowering the price for good work, not only hurting yourself, but others, too.<br />
Why not try something else for a challenge? Start or join an open source project to build a reputation? Build up a company, advertise and solve the problems of the people around you? Help a non-profit organization to organize their IT for the common good? Get into academia and do some research?<br />
It&#8217;s not the breadth of your skills that make you a good coder, it&#8217;s the depth of your expertise. There&#8217;s always a way to do things better, even in a day-to-day job, and that&#8217;s the way to perfection. By suggesting that the motivation for improvement is hard to find you indicate that you may have reached a dead end. Try to overcome this by aspiring for the next level; it may be more rewarding than doing other&#8217;s work for next to nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sriram</title>
		<link>http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/04/21/doing-some-work-at-rentacoder/comment-page-1/#comment-50085</link>
		<dc:creator>Sriram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your view on how capitalism works. RentACoder was not started for the betterment of third world programmers yearning to put bread on the table. Rest assured, no Pakistanis were hurt when you finished two homework assignments to perfection!  Possibly two "first world" kids were denied the opportunity to think for themselves (if that was indeed the case). You might draw in market forces to your rescue here. If not you, somebody else would have done that homework for them. 

If not me someone else might have hunted that bear...
If not me someone else might have stolen that Oil... 

There is an honor code every student going to a university in the US is expected to adhere to and that is not to ask or provide unauthorized assistance. The students definitely sold their honor in Renting-A-Coder. Was the coder an accomplice? I am totally OK with "So what?" / "Screw them, I'll be making the big bucks as soon as the ratings go up."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your view on how capitalism works. RentACoder was not started for the betterment of third world programmers yearning to put bread on the table. Rest assured, no Pakistanis were hurt when you finished two homework assignments to perfection!  Possibly two &#8220;first world&#8221; kids were denied the opportunity to think for themselves (if that was indeed the case). You might draw in market forces to your rescue here. If not you, somebody else would have done that homework for them. </p>
<p>If not me someone else might have hunted that bear&#8230;<br />
If not me someone else might have stolen that Oil&#8230; </p>
<p>There is an honor code every student going to a university in the US is expected to adhere to and that is not to ask or provide unauthorized assistance. The students definitely sold their honor in Renting-A-Coder. Was the coder an accomplice? I am totally OK with &#8220;So what?&#8221; / &#8220;Screw them, I&#8217;ll be making the big bucks as soon as the ratings go up.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: eliben</title>
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		<dc:creator>eliben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I mentioned, this is just a temporary way to get the rating and reputation needed to advance. It's not my goal to do people's homework, because it's not solving real problems, and most often it's less interesting than real problems.

You have to start with something. You can't expect a firm having a work that needs to be done for real to hire a coder with no rating and reputation. I wouldn't. But a coder that completed at least a couple of homework assignments satisfactorily already looks better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned, this is just a temporary way to get the rating and reputation needed to advance. It&#8217;s not my goal to do people&#8217;s homework, because it&#8217;s not solving real problems, and most often it&#8217;s less interesting than real problems.</p>
<p>You have to start with something. You can&#8217;t expect a firm having a work that needs to be done for real to hire a coder with no rating and reputation. I wouldn&#8217;t. But a coder that completed at least a couple of homework assignments satisfactorily already looks better.</p>
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		<title>By: cdr</title>
		<link>http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2007/04/21/doing-some-work-at-rentacoder/comment-page-1/#comment-50077</link>
		<dc:creator>cdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm curious how doing someone's homework for them is "solving real problems".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious how doing someone&#8217;s homework for them is &#8220;solving real problems&#8221;.</p>
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